DLNA is a Solution

[HappyJax]

I will state that I love my HDHR Prime. Watch and record without difficulty using WMC. However, HDHR has more to offer then just a viewing experience on a PC. I believe that HDHR must get into the DLNA game. DLNA is available in almost every modern LCD/LED TV and smartphone/tablet device as a DLNA renderer. Furthermore it is extreamly simple to setup. The only piece missing in the puzzle is HDHR presenting itself on the network as a DLNA player w/channel control. I am not privy to the hardware capabilities inside the HDHR device but that is were it would be most appropriate if possible. A hardware implementation would be the simplest for the user experience. If the hardware of the HDHR cannot handle DLNA then a client application running on a computer would be the next best choice.

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[joedaddyo]

Hey Jax.

I read your post and thought right on. Then I saw NO response in near 6 months and it looks like people are not getting it. DLNA is all the range now, who needs Microshaft Media Center? I'm so sick of fighting the constant problems and subtle changes with Media Center & Prime. DLNA just works, so HDHR Prime, please, give us an app that works on droid and the major TVs, Panasonic|Samsung|Sony and we want it now. (thinking of the JD Wentworth commercial)

Talking into the wind, I fear.

Joe

[sl0re10]

DLNA would solve a lot of problems at once. Everything has dlna clients available...

[wellthatsnotgood]

Would a TV be able to take in a copy-once channel and decrypt it? If not, then that's probably why nobody is working on DNLA.

[gtb]

Would a TV be able to take in a copy-once channel and decrypt it? If not, then that's probably why nobody is working on DNLA.

For DRM, there are extensions generically called "Link Protection" and embodied in the DTCP-IP/WMDRM-ND specs (maybe others/different names at this point, this was a few years ago). The classic examples are windows media extenders/xbox media extenders. AFAIK there are no shipping TV's/media players certified to replace those devices. Whatever one thinks about DRM, it is a requirement of the content providers in many parts of the world.

Gary

[swampfire]

What problem are you trying to solve with DLNA? You could set up a DLNA server like TVersity on your PC, but you'd need to convert from WTV to a more DLNA-friendly format. If the goal is Live Streaming, there is no DLNA solution for that (yet).

My preference would be to see MCE functionality in more devices. I bit the bullet and got three XBOX slims, but it would have been nice to see a Roku or Samsung TV app.

Anyway, DLNA is not the droids you are looking for...

[Mediaman]

What problem are you trying to solve with DLNA? You could set up a DLNA server like TVersity on your PC, but you'd need to convert from WTV to a more DLNA-friendly format. If the goal is Live Streaming, there is no DLNA solution for that (yet).

My preference would be to see MCE functionality in more devices. I bit the bullet and got three XBOX slims, but it would have been nice to see a Roku or Samsung TV app.

The Ceton Echo will be basically that, an apps platform and a extender, they have announced a sugg. retail at $180 and it should be available for xmas if not sooner.

Anyway, DLNA is not the droids you are looking for...

Still a DLNA solution would be a lot cheaper and would cut across more product (phones, tablets, TV's) giving any network based tuner a broader market as a computer would not be necessary. Also most DLNA compliant devices have apps on them too. Personally I have never found an app on a TV that I liked better than going directly to the company web site; specifically Netflix (and that includes the interface in WMC) but Amazon's prime service was no cakewalk direct or as an app.

[PVR4Me]

... Still a DLNA solution would be a lot cheaper and would cut across more product (phones, tablets, TV's) giving any network based tuner a broader market as a computer would not be necessary. Also most DLNA compliant devices have apps on them too. Personally I have never found an app on a TV that I liked better than going directly to the company web site; specifically Netflix (and that includes the interface in WMC) but Amazon's prime service was no cakewalk direct or as an app.

DLNA is a short form for "frustratingly-incompatible-products-that-almost-but-don't-quite-work-together-due-to-incomplete-and-buggy-implementations-of-a-crappy-standard".

Craig

[drhill26]

Stop buying cheap electronics. DLNA works fine for me. I have a 2010 Samsung tv and blu ray player that plays MKV, MP4, and AVI (yuck) files fine except the blu ray player has problems with HD audio formats and shows which switch audio tracks. My sony google tv blu ray box is a champ. It plays everything. I also have two 2012 panasonic TVs which plays MKVs and MP4 great except DTS audio and HD audio formats.

[DaveK2]

SiliconDust is listed as a member of DLNA. Maybe they're working on something like this, maybe not, hint, hint.

In order to sign up for an individual account on the DLNA website for their discussion groups, "Your company must be a member of this organization for you to gain access to the members area of this site." I suppose "your company" is intended to mean you are an employee on the payroll, not just a developer who has purchased a product. But you could apply for an individual account and see if SiliconDust approves it .

[TeddyR]

Would a TV be able to take in a copy-once channel and decrypt it? If not, then that's probably why nobody is working on DNLA.

For DRM, there are extensions generically called "Link Protection" and embodied in the DTCP-IP/WMDRM-ND specs (maybe others/different names at this point, this was a few years ago). The classic examples are windows media extenders/xbox media extenders. AFAIK there are no shipping TV's/media players certified to replace those devices. Whatever one thinks about DRM, it is a requirement of the content providers in many parts of the world.

Gary

The PS3 already supports DTCP-IP and would be a great "alternative" MS only solutions. Support for DTCP-IP was one of the excuses that were given for why the "Other OS" option was taken out of the PS3 software.

The problem might be that sony (at least in Japan) has launched a network DVR device that may be a problem.. (nasne) http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-574 ... ns-future/